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    "parsed_content": "What to WatchOscar Nominees: Where to Stream\u2018Wuthering Heights\u2019\u2018Goat\u2019\u2018Crime 101\u2019\u2018Scarlet\u2019\u2018Neighbors\u2019AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTSupported bySKIP ADVERTISEMENT\u2018The Simpsons\u2019 Hits Another MilestoneOn Sunday the series, the longest running American sitcom, will air its 800th episode on Fox. In an interview, the creator Matt Groening says there\u2019s no end in sight.Listen to this article \u00b7 7:31 min Learn moreShare full articleThe 800th \u201cSimpsons\u201d episode to air on Fox, titled \u201cIrrational Treasure,\u201d will premiere on Sunday.Credit...20th Television FoxBy Darryn KingFeb. 15, 2026A few years ago at the airport, Matt Groening was steered into the T.S.A. secondary screening line and told to remove the contents of his luggage. Then he heard a child\u2019s laugh ring out, in the unmistakable taunting tones of the \u201cSimpsons\u201d bully Nelson Muntz: \u201cHa-ha.\u201d\u201cI don\u2019t know if it was just the kid acting like the character, or if the kid knew who I was and was really rubbing it in,\u201d Groening said in a recent phone interview. Either way, the incident says something about Groening\u2019s legacy and the ubiquity of his creation.Thirty-nine years after a certain scraggily drawn cartoon family first appeared on television, as part of Fox\u2019s \u201cThe Tracey Ullman Show,\u201d \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d is about to air its 800th episode on the network. (There have been some additional Disney+ exclusive episodes.) \u201cIrrational Treasure\u201d will premiere on Sunday, which also happens to be Groening\u2019s 72nd birthday. In a recent conversation, Groening spoke about how the show has evolved, the Homers in his own life and why there is no end in sight for the series.\u201cI\u2019m not going to be the guy that says it\u2019s over,\u201d he said.This interview took place before recent reports noted similarities between a plot detail in a \u201cSimpsons\u201d episode from 2000 and Jeffrey Epstein\u2019s island. On Friday a representative for Groening declined to comment about the episode and about Groening\u2019s past contact with Epstein, revealed in court documents that were unsealed in 2019.AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTThese are edited excerpts from the conversation.ImageThe Simpsons family has been on TV for nearly 40 years. \u201cYou would think that by this time, we must get it right every time,\u201d Matt Groening said. \u201cIt\u2019s amazing we still need to tweak things.\u201dCredit...Rodin Eckenroth\/Getty ImagesWhy do you think \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d has lasted so long?I think of \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d as a forum for different comedy styles. There are so many different kinds of jokes in the show. If the show had stayed consistent with my earliest vision, which was generally much more mild and not as crazy, I don\u2019t know that it would still be on the air. We reinvent the show over and over again, and the writers and animators are trying to surprise themselves over and over again. That keeps it fresh.What is your role these days?Way too much of my time is spent doing custodial cleanup work. I look at the designs of backgrounds and characters and props and things like that to make sure they\u2019re consistent. You would think that by this time, we must get it right every time. It\u2019s amazing we still need to tweak things.I take my credit seriously, but I can\u2019t say enough how much \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d is a collaborative effort. It really is the amazing output of a lot of people working as hard as they can to be as funny as they can.What do you say to people who say \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d peaked 30 years ago?The thing about humor is anybody can say, \u201cThat\u2019s not funny.\u201d Everything isn\u2019t for everybody. It\u2019s been on an awfully long time. People who say, \u201cThe show hasn\u2019t been good since Year X\u201d \u2014 you\u2019re not watching the show! In recent years, and I don\u2019t know how the animators do it, we\u2019ve been incredibly ambitious with our efforts not to repeat ourselves and surprise both us and the audience.AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTThe show has been part of the culture for so long, it is easy to forget how bizarre the original character designs are.I agree. Somebody wrote that the most memorable cartoon characters are the ones that you can identify in silhouette. No matter which way Mickey Mouse turns his head, his ears are distinct. That\u2019s what I tried to do with Bart, Homer, Lisa, Maggie and Marge.ImageThe version of the Simpson family that aired on \u201cThe Tracey Ullman Show\u201d was cruder and spikier.Credit...FoxImageDavid Silverman, an original animator on \u201cThe Simpsons,\u201d came up with rules for how the characters should look.Credit...FoxBart probably has a place on the Mount Rushmore of cartoon characters next to Mickey. With Bugs Bunny and SpongeBob, perhaps.That\u2019s good company. I would shout out David Silverman, one of the original three animators on \u201cThe Simpsons,\u201d who came up with the rules. When I would draw Bart, I would say, Oh, there are a lot of spikes on his head. But David actually counted them and made the rules of how many there should be. I think it\u2019s 11. Or nine. [It\u2019s nine.]AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTAnd Gyorgi Peluce\u2019s colors.Oh, yes. The amazing pioneer who looked at my black-and-white drawings and picked yellow. Which worked perfectly.Were you ever taken aback by the phenomenal success of the show?I was startled by how popular the show was all over the world. It is extremely popular in basically every English-speaking country, but it\u2019s got probably even more intense devotion in Central and South America. I was in Buenos Aires several years back. There\u2019s Simpsons graffiti all over the place, and I was recognized on the street. That was amazing.We had a guest bedroom that I outfitted from top to bottom with \u201cSimpsons\u201d pillowcases and bedsheets and curtains and a million toys. The great thing about it was that guests would only stay one night and then find a reason to leave.ImageCredit...FoxYou rarely wrote for the show. Was there tension between you and the writers in the early years?TV comedy writers in general, you\u2019re staying up all hours and you\u2019re forced to be funny. That\u2019s a recipe for insanity. The long hours that are integral to animation, everyone just goes nuts. And then the sudden overwhelming success of the show also made some people a little crazy. Looking back on it, we were all a little nuts.You wanted to do a live-action Krusty the Clown spinoff at one point. What happened there?I thought it\u2019d be conceptually hilarious to do a live-action spinoff of an animated show, with Dan Castellaneta in clown makeup. Fox said, \u201cDoes it have to be live action?\u201d I said, \u201cOK, let\u2019s do it animated.\u201d But we couldn\u2019t make the deal. There haven\u2019t been any spinoffs of \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d in part because the original show has been so lucrative that no deal can be made. Too many people have dollar signs in their eyes.AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTYou named your son Homer \u2014 after your father rather than the character. That must have resulted in some interesting conversations.When my son was really small and I was wheeling him around in a stroller, people would say: \u201cOh, what a cute baby. What\u2019s his name?\u201d I\u2019d say Homer. And then they would laugh.I wanted to make it up to my father that I had named this idiot after him. My father was nothing like Homer. He was really smart and athletic, and he was a war hero. He was a B-17 pilot in World War II. He made surfing movies in the \u201960s and cartoons and was a huge inspiration to me.The only thing that bothered him about Homer Simpson was if he was ever mean to Marge. There was an episode in which their car broke down in the desert, and Homer made Marge carry the flat tire back to the town. He said, \u201cHomer should not have done that.\u201d And he was really serious.ImageGroening\u2019s father was fine with being Homer\u2019s namesake but didn\u2019t like when the character was mean to Marge, as in a Season 5 epsiode.Credit...FoxThat would be \u201cHomer\u2019s Barbershop Quartet,\u201d from Season 5.Oh, wow. I used to have every episode memorized, but now we\u2019ve reached the stage where I can actually watch most of the episodes and be completely surprised. Every time we do a new episode, it squeezes an older episode out of my brain.AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTYou do these drawings, they come alive, they move around, they say things. And not only do they move around and say things, but they do things that you didn\u2019t write, that other people wrote. I feel like, Oh, this is what it\u2019s like to be God and give people free will.The show has now been on for more than half your life. Will it run forever?About 15 years ago I was asked this question, and I said, \u201cWe\u2019re probably closer to the end than the beginning.\u201d And then headlines around the world were saying that \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d was canceled. So I have learned to say there is no end in sight. We\u2019re still having a good time.One of the fun things about my projects is that they don\u2019t seem to end. \u201cThe Simpsons\u201d keeps going. \u201cFuturama\u201d has come and gone and come again. And who knows what\u2019s coming? It\u2019s always surprising.What\u2019s the next meaningful milestone for you?I\u2019m trying to figure out what my epitaph is going to be on my gravestone. There\u2019s still that to come.A version of this article appears in print on Feb. 16, 2026, Section C, Page 5 of the New York edition with the headline: \u2018The Simpsons\u2019 Passes Another Milestone. 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